Lorde is opening up about her gender identity. In a cover story with Rolling Stone ahead of her upcoming new album Virgin, the singer-songwriter revealed she had a discussion about gender with Chappell Roan,

Lorde is comfortable in her own skin, which means she’s not restricting herself when it comes to her gender identity. She broaches the topic in the lyrics on “Virgin,” her first new album in four years. In the album’s opening song, she boldly declares, “Some days I’m a woman/ Some days I’m a man.”

Lorde talks about gender titles and a discussion she had with Chappell Roan about being nonbinary in a sprawling new interview.